I have met and heard the tragic stories of many parents. PA is a function, by and large, of a custodial ex-partner, although some alienation can start while the couple is still together.

This blog is a story of experiences and observations of dysfunctional Family Law (FLAW), an arena pitting parent against parent, with children as the prize. Due to the gender bias in Family Law, that I have observed, this Blog has evolved from a focus solely on PA to one of the broader Family/Children's Rights area and the impact of Feminist mythology on Canadian Jurisprudence and the Divorce Industry.

Sunday, June 20, 2010

No bias in this study ~ Lesbian Mothers Think Their Children are All Above Average

The National Longitudinal Lesbian Family Study (NLLFS) study quoted in the story below has an agenda and we have had some Female Chauvinist Pigs, like Pamela Paul, doing articles in magazines like Atlantic describing the maternal superiority of Lesbians over - get this - heterosexual couples.  So they are not only better  than normal moms, who are also women but the underlying theme is dads are not necessary. If they said that about a racial minority they would be castigated by the media rather than the useful idiots of the MSM parroting the studies results as though it was factual. Studies show that as many as a third or more of lesbians have been victims of sexual assault, including rape,  or coercion at the hands of another woman.  Others show the rate of abusiveness between same sex females cohabiting is higher than heterosexual DV.  Additionally, single moms are the most likely to kill or abuse their children and Lesbians see more frequent breakups and they are less stable which is mentioned in the study. Paul, the maternal supremacist, fails to mention this.

This study conducted in Bejing isn't directly relevant but it is instructive in what is happening in Communist China, "The survey, funded by the Anti-Domestic Violence Network of the China Law Society (ADVN), an NGO founded in 2000 to protect women's rights, found 75 percent of lesbian and bisexual women in Beijing were victims of domestic violence." 

In this report a psychology professor Carolyn West "found estimates of lesbian domestic abuse ranging anywhere from 8.5 to 73 percent but says that in most studies 30 to 40 percent of lesbians reported they'd been in a violent relationship. The National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs, a gay and lesbian advocacy group, estimates based on the sparse research available that domestic violence occurs in 25 to 33 percent of same-sex couples."

Needless  to say the NLLFS study is not to be taken seriously and those authors who are touting it have a clear agenda. Female superiority in the care of children and dads are unnecessary.  What does that say about their cousins Gay men raising children. Are they twice as unnecessary.  These supremacists do no favours to their very small same sex, relative to normal couples, community.





A very in depth study goes into great detail about homosexual marriages 

Some snippets:










Gay and lesbian vs. other opposite-sex intimate partner relationships
Surveys conducted by the U.S. Department of Justice confirm that homosexual and lesbian relationships had a far greater incidence of domestic partner violence than opposite-sex relationships including cohabitation or marriage.

·  The National Violence against Women Survey, sponsored by the National Institute of Justice, found that "same-sex cohabitants reported significantly more intimate partner violence than did opposite-sex cohabitants. Thirty-nine percent of the same-sex cohabitants reported being raped, physically assaulted, and/or stalked by a marital/cohabitating partner at some time in their lifetimes, compared to 21.7 percent of the opposite-sex cohabitants. Among men, the comparable figures are 23.1 percent and 7.4 percent."[50]
Source: "Extent, Nature, and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence," U.S. Department of Justice: Office of Justice Programs, 30.

The study further charts specic rates of DV compared to married men/women compared to homosexuals.

Homosexual and Lesbian Couples vs. Married Couples
When homosexual and lesbian relationships are directly compared with married couples, the difference in the domestic partner violence is pronounced:
Sources: "Extent, Nature, and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence," U.S. Department of Justice: Office of Justice Programs: 30; "Intimate Partner Violence," Bureau of Justice Statistics Special Report:11.

And they posit the following:

A POLITICAL AGENDA: REDEFINING MARRIAGE

By their own admission, gay activists are not simply interested in making it possible for homosexuals and lesbians to partake of conventional married life. Rather, they aim to change the essential character of marriage, removing precisely the aspects of fidelity and chastity that promote stability in the relationship and the home.MJM








Janice Shaw Crouse

Saturday, June 19, 2010


The National Longitudinal Lesbian Family Study (NLLFS) just published in the online edition of the Journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and funded by the Gill Foundation and the Lesbian Health Fund of the Gay Lesbian Medical Association, claims that children of lesbian mothers do better than children from a married-mom-and-dad family. The AAP is no stranger to controversy; they are the pediatrics group that recently capitulated to political-correctness to advocate a “less extreme” form of female genital mutilation and then, when under pressure, reversed their recommendation.  The NLLFS study professes to be a highly respected, peer-reviewed “longitudinal” type of study.  Longitudinal studies, however, are conducted by researchers who objectively track subjects over a long period of time. In this study, the children were evaluated by their lesbian birth mothers — hardly disinterested, dispassionate researchers.

The hype for the study was remarkable, with over 116 newspaper headlines blaring the news: “Children of lesbian couples do well.”  Few of the articles questioned the fact that the children’s mothers were reporting on their “little darling’s” well-being, social functioning, behavior, and achievements; nor did publications usually note the lack of cross-checking with objective outcomes.  Not mentioned, as well, is that over half of the original lesbian-couple participants in the study were separated by the time their children were age six (mean age), though such family upheaval is typically quite difficult for children.  Nor did the laudatory reports question the fact that the 78 children in the study contributed their own assessments about their lives and well-being.  Without comparing these personal observations with objective outcomes (teacher/counselor evaluations, school report cards, etc.) the study is highly unreliable.

The study is neither objective nor comprehensive.  There are three major problems with the “study”:

1)      The “research” consists of the mothers’ opinions about their children;

2)      Only 77 lesbian couples participated in the “study,” and they were not typical parents in other regards. An earlier NLLFS report described the sample population as Caucasian (93 percent), predominantly college educated (67 percent), mostly middle and upper class (82 percent), professional or managers (85 percent) and a median household income of $85,000; and,

3)      the study did not consist of a random sample — all the participants were volunteers — recruited via posted announcements in women’s bookstores, at lesbian events, and in lesbian newspapers in three major metropolitan areas (Boston, Washington, D.C., and San Francisco)

The personal relationships and professional affiliations of the authors engender even more questions about the study’s reliability.  Dr. Nanette Gartrell of the University of California, San Francisco, is “married” to Dee Moshbacker, Ph.D., a psychiatrist and lesbian activist/filmmaker.  She lamented that “there are so many places in the United States where same-sex couples are not allowed to adopt or foster children in need.”

Yet, she claims, “There is not a single study that has shown there are any problems in terms of psychological adjustment” [of the children in lesbian couple households].  The other author, Dr. Henny M.W. Bos, is an assistant professor in Amsterdam whose research focuses on “child rearing and child development in non traditional families, such as planned lesbian families, gay father families and patchwork families.”

The two authors send a message that children of lesbians fare better than the children of a married mom and dad.  They state at the outset, “Despite more than three decades of cross-sectional research demonstrating that the psychological adjustment of children is unrelated to their parents’ sexual orientation, the legitimacy of lesbian and gay biological, foster, and adoptive parenting is still under scrutiny.”  A close reading of the Pediatrics article reveals a broader agenda promoting donor insemination, praising female parenting in contrast to having a father present, and, typically, condemning straight society as homophobic — a disproportionate amount of attention is given to descriptions of the children’s negative experiences related to their parents’ sexual preference (but the harassment didn’t affect their well-being, you understand).

 Some critics are concerned that the Gartrell/Bos study will be used, not to praise lesbian couples, but to question the fitness of fathers.  Indeed, Gartrell/Bos note, “Lesbian mothers use less corporal punishment and less power assertion than heterosexual fathers.”  The authors assert the benefits of a feminine environment, “Growing up in households with less power assertion and more parental involvement has been shown to be associated with healthier psychological adjustment.”

Still other critics pointed out the weaknesses in the control group — the 93 children who were used for comparison.  They described the control group as “very different in race composition, socio-economic status of participants, and region of the country.”  They also noted that there are many more minorities and Southern children in the control group than in the NLLFS study group.  These critics questioned the editorial board and peer reviewers “who did not pay attention to such an obvious deficiency in the study.”

Others questioned the “enormous political incentive” for lesbian mothers to volunteer their participation.  There can be no doubt as to the “political incentive” of the “research.”  The authors make their purpose plain by concluding, “This study has implications for the clinical care of lesbian families, for the expert testimony provided by pediatricians on lesbian mother custody, and for public policies concerning same-sex parenting.”
In spite of the weaknesses in the methodology, the authors conclude with a vast generalization, “The NLLFS adolescents are well-adjusted, demonstrating more competencies and fewer behavioral problems than their peers in the normative American population.”
 
Clearly, these lesbian mothers are from Lake Wobegon, where all the children are above average.


Copyright © 2010 Salem Web Network. All Rights Reserved.
http://townhall.com/columnists/JaniceShawCrouse/2010/06/19/lesbian_mothers_think_their_children_are_all_above_average?page=full&comments=true

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

alright, so the claims might have been biased, but there was no need to make your own biased opinion so clear

Michael J. Murphy said...

Suck it up buttercup. My opinion is based on studies not bogus unscientific scribbles.

CourageWolf said...

I agree with the first poster. I read a study that said lesbian parents are no better or no worse than gay or heterosexual parents. So maybe go find that one and freak out at it? I don't know why it needed to be pointed out that lesbians report being abused, that's just unfortunate. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/27/797548/-On-Rape-and-Men-%28Brace-Yourself%29

Stick that in your pie hole and smoke it, the world has enough straight men hating on homosexuals. Just because you hate women is no reason to bring them down with you sinking ship full of hatred. Lesbians are the way they are not because they decided one day to get rid of the men in their lives, but because they were born with an attraction to women. Much like men are attracted to women, men are attracted to men, and people are attracted to money, power, and shiny objects. I'm sure it's nice for your EGO to believe lesbians are out to destroy families, and get rid of men altogether, but that's not the case.
Anyway, I read a study that says you're a tool. Argue about that while I never visit this blog again.

Michael J. Murphy said...

My goodness I guess the truth hurts when you are faced with it. Tell your Lesbian friends to stop bragging about how terrific they are as shown in the study I am critiquing. If you want to consider yourself some kind of supremacist be ready for those of us who will do a little fact checking.


Your shaming language is lame and shows you are pumped up on emotion not logic. I note leftards do work on emotion and most Gay and Lesbians are on the left side of the political spectrum where reason gets lost in the overwrought fallout of a persons personal demons.

Suck it up and move on wolfy. I could care less if you ever came back. What I will deliver is a good dose of the facts. Deal with it.

Ally Walters said...

You are basing an entire community's opinion on one lesbian extremist. No matter what random facts you scrounge around for to disprove Paul's article, they will all be irrelevant to the entire community. I saw the reference you made to people on the far-left that lack a sense of reason, but you seem to have a very skewed sense of logic. Using "studies" to note that a percentage of lesbians have been sexually assaulted does not support or negate the idea of same-sex parenthood. Not to mention you seem to omit all of the ideas in your own article that don't seem to fit snugly with your opinion.

"Gay and lesbian couples experience the same issues of power and control as heterosexual couples. This may manifest itself in physical, sexual, verbal, and economic abuse,” said Noyes.

Same issues, Murphy, not more violent or destructive. The same issues every human relationship struggles with regardless of gender, race or culture. [Although that article makes an extremely important point of how homosexual couples do not receive the same recognition or protection that heterosexual couples do, and forward movements are being made to change that.]
You're disagreement with Paul is valid, your argument (however riddles with random links to magazine and journals) is not a very strong one to the well versed reader. And the claim of "no bias" loses credit after the introduction.

You should have argued why Paul was wrong to argue supremacy instead of equality, not create a tone of inferiority.
Also, while accusing people of using "emotional" language, "suck it up buttercup" seems to be a bit emotional, and "tell your lesbian friends to stop bragging" is a bit assumptive and reflective of the "shaming language" you mentioned earlier.

However, this IS only a blog with no credited information to the author, only opinion, so the I suppose there are no requirements that need to be met.

Ally Walter said...

Stop hiding behind random statistics and take a look at the world. What we need is equality, not extremists battling between supremacy and inferiority. Your ideas are no better than Paul's.

Ally Walter said...

Wow, I could have sworn I left a relatively long comment earlier. Now I see what actually happens is you delete any of the coherent comments that are too difficult to refute or has strong support against your opinion.

No wonder only the comments you can slaughter are remaining. Have to keep your superior opinion as the only on people are allowed to view I suppose.

Michael J. Murphy said...

I assumed you had deleted your longer response. I don't delete unless it is spam, libelous or slander. I do receive a copy of all responses via the blog messaging system and received the message you are talking about but the only way for it to not show up on the blog is for the writer to delete it or an electronic glitch. There is no trace on the blog at all. I liked your response that has gone missing (although I disagree with some of it. You put some thought into it and it shows. If you did not save it I can try and get it back to you for re-posting. If I do it my name will show up as the poster.

Michael J. Murphy said...

The missing post. Cut and paste it back in under your own name and I will delete this one.

Ally Walter said...

You are basing an entire community's opinion on one lesbian extremist. No matter what random facts you scrounge around for to disprove Paul's article, they will all be irrelevant to the entire community. I saw the reference you made to people on the far-left that lack a sense of reason, but you seem to have a very skewed sense of logic. Using "studies" to note that a percentage of lesbians have been sexually assaulted does not support or negate the idea of same-sex parenthood. Not to mention you seem to omit all of the ideas in your own article that don't seem to fit snugly with your opinion.

"Gay and lesbian couples experience the same issues of power and control as heterosexual couples. This may manifest itself in physical, sexual, verbal, and economic abuse,” said Noyes.

Same issues, Murphy, not more violent or destructive. The same issues every human relationship struggles with regardless of gender, race or culture. [Although that article makes an extremely important point of how homosexual couples do not receive the same recognition or protection that heterosexual couples do, and forward movements are being made to change that.]
You're disagreement with Paul is valid, your argument (however riddles with random links to magazine and journals) is not a very strong one to the well versed reader. And the claim of "no bias" loses credit after the introduction.

You should have argued why Paul was wrong to argue supremacy instead of equality, not create a tone of inferiority.
Also, while accusing people of using "emotional" language, "suck it up buttercup" seems to be a bit emotional, and "tell your lesbian friends to stop bragging" is a bit assumptive and reflective of the "shaming language" you mentioned earlier.

However, this IS only a blog with no credited information to the author, only opinion, so the I suppose there are no requirements that need to be met.

Anonymous said...

This is entirely wrong. I'm a lesbian and I have never been sexually abused once by either sex.

Honestly I find it HILARIOUS. People will say lesbians become lesbians by:
rape by women
rape by men

make up for mind. That isn't true at all. Some people who are raped become promiscuous to demean the rape, others have no sex at all because they are ashamed. We're all different. But nobody who "became" a lesbian is a real lesbian. The real lesbians were born that way. Like my girlfriend and I. And neither of us has ever been abused.

Though it *is* statistically proven homosexuals are more creative. That doesn't say anything about intelligence but that is a fact.

Fighting against a biased stereotype with ANOTHER biased stereotype is disgusting. Please grow up.

Michael J. Murphy said...

Anonymous.

The studies I quote or show are based on actual work within the Lesbian/Gay community or are statistical analysis based on surveys or studies. It may well be there are couples who do not have a violent relationship. In the heterosexual community it is also a small subset of these couples who experience violence but the feminists would like to blow it out of proportion.

What is clear, however, is that on average Lesbians have a higher rate of DV than do straight couples.

If Lesbians and feminists (the anti-male feminists say Lesbians are the only true feminists,) want to just get along then tell your colleagues to stop publishing trash studies about female superiority in child rearing and other areas and the implicit rationale dads are not needed. As long as you have these supremacists in your collective there will be push back.

It is insulting to both heterosexual couples and Gay males who want to be adoptive parents.

By the way its Gays who are deemed more creative as opposed to Lesbians. Men have invented almost everything of any use to humankind since we lived in caves. Is it not interesting the most sought after fashion designers for women and men are gay men.

...I'm just saying this in response to the supremacists in your sorority...

Anonymous said...

You are such a bigot. Have you ever even met a lesbian? I don't think so.

Anonymous said...

Wow!! I'm not lgbt but you are a biased faggot! I guess your the type of guy who thinks a woman should work her ass of in the kitchen all day...your not in the 16th century

Michael J. Murphy said...

Anon x 2 I'd say both of you anons seem to have big issues. I'm pretty good at profiling people even when they only utter a single sentence and I'd say Anon of 29/6/11 is heavily entrenched in the LGBT group and has a very hateful and disrespectful side.

I've noted over the years this group tries to seek respect but members, or their sycophants, often fall off the cliff and display the same attributes they ascribe to others.

All of my information in the article exists in the public domain if you care to look. Somehow I don't think you want to as most lefties, especially many of the politically correct variety, can't take direct confrontation with someone like me. Instead you hide behind anonymity and like a school child hurl silly little epithets.

Suck it up and move on. LOL.

Anonymous said...

okay who cares what people do let us live our lives with happiness its a free country my lord yall all act like children, plez act your age

Michael J. Murphy said...

Wouldn't it be nice to not be subjected to Lesbian supremacist bogus studies on how much better they are at parenthood than anyone else including we heterosexual parents, not to mention Gay parents. Heck we could all just live our lives in quiet dignity.